I had a pair of these when I was on 85s and they were great! Then I grew out of them and my dad had a new pair of fox fx3? I believe that I wore and they were also a great boot. So I had a good first impression on fox boots. I moved up to big bikes this year and needed a new pair of boots. Due to past experience, I went cheap and bought these boots. The day the got here I put them on and went to do twenty minute motos. They were quite uncomfortable but I just figured theY needed to be broken in. When I got done and went to take the boots off, the base of the bottom clip on each boot was broken in pieces. Luckily my old black boots clip thing fit it. Overall these are a bad boot. Just spend a hundred more dollars and get a good hinge boots.