Just got these to replace my worn out non armor biking shorts. I wanted to buy a higher quality motorcycle short with armor, and after a couple days of research, I bought these. BTO Sports had the best price, free shipping, and I had them in 2 business days! I ride single track with fast desert racing/riding in the Phoenix,AZ area with A lot of out of the seat riding. These shorts are very comfortable, wicked sweat all day, much better than my old shorts. I have a 33" waist and the Medium was perfect. I rode 60+ miles with major rain water everywhere, and the shorts did their job perfectly. These are worth every penny.